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Joseph SMITH

Joseph SMITH

Male 1740S? - Bef 1822 ASSESS?

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  • Name Joseph SMITH 
    Born 1740S? 
    Gender Male 
    Residence 4 Jul 1783  Penobscot, Lincoln, ME Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Downeast Ancestry
      December 1983
      Volume 7 Number 4
      Penobscot Loyalists: A Bicentennial Tribute
      Robert C. Brooks
      Penobscot Inhabitants Cetified Loyal 1783
      4 July 1783
      Joseph Smith: 2 over 10
    Residence FALL 1784  Back Lands Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 10 Jun 1784  Passamaquoddy, St Andrews, Charlotte, NB Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • http://members.shaw.ca/caren.secord/locations/NewBrunswick/Lists/PenobscotGroupSorted.html
      From Library and Archives Canada, Ward Chipman Papers, Muster Master General's Office - Loyalists Musters, 1776-1785
      (M.G. 23, D 1, Series I, Volume 24, pages 172-177) Microfilm C-9818
      The list below has been sorted in alphabetical order by surname, in order to isolate possible family groups.
      Return of Men, Women and Children of the Penobscot Loyalists Settled in the District of Passamaquoddy the 10th of June 1784
      Men: Joseph Smith
      Women: Nancy Smith
      Children over 10: Sarah Smith
      Children under 10: Nancy Smith
    Residence 9 Jun 1786  Town, St Andrews, Charlotte, NB Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 4 Sep 1789  Lot 40, St Andrews, Charlotte, NB Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Petition 1807  for Pleasant Ridge Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Residence 1807  [St Andrews, Charlotte, NB] Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Died Bef 1822 ASSESS? 
    • St Andrews Assessment 1822:
      Peter Smith [L] [Capt Peter Smith Harbor Master i 1816 m Mary American i 1819

      [These three together:]
      David Smith [L]
      David Smith Jr [P] [[m Elizabeth Greenlaw d Ebenezer]
      John Smith [P] [not John Smith m Jane 1851 census b Ireland i 1832]

      Stewart Smith [P] [Nil petitions, Johnson's. To Calais b c 1800 Scotland d 1865 Calais]

      Silas Smith [L] [m Hannah Brown]
    Person ID I4177  4 February 2018
    Last Modified 9 May 2020 

    Father SMITH 
    Family ID F19700  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family Nancy,   d. Aft 1807 PETITIONS 
    Married C 1770? 
    Children 
     1. Ann,   b. [1775], St Andrews, Charlotte, NB Find all individuals with events at this location,   d. 13 Jan 1867, [St Andrews, Charlotte, NB] Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Sarah SMITH,   b. C 1768?,   d. [1863]
     3. Nancy SMITH,   b. [1774-1784]
     4. SMITH,   d. BY 1797?
    Family ID F2270  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Documents
    St Andrews Rural 1805
    St Andrews Rural 1805
    A look at the families living on the Penobscot Association Grant in the rural part of St Andrews, New Brunswick, around 1805.

  • Notes 
    • Both Joseph and Nancy Smith disappear from the record after their 1786 deed, which disposed of the remainder of their granted land in Charlotte County. The more than 20 year gap without another record of the couple, between that deed and the petition (with many others) in 1807 for land on Pleasant Ridge (then Saint Patrick, now Dumabrton), suggests that the petitioner Joseph Smith was probably not the same man. Was he a son of Joseph and Nancy?

      It appears that Joseph and Nancy had two children, but even that is uncertain. In 1783 when the household was counted at Penobscot, it only showed two member over the age of ten years, presumably Joseph and Nancy. Another return taken in the fall of 1784 at St Andrews shows only the householder and his wife. But the Return of all inhabitants at St Andrews in 1784 names two Smith children: Sarah over the age of 10, and Nancy under 10. Were they children of Joseph and Nancy who somehow weren't counted at other times? Perhaps living in another household?

      There is no suggestion of what became of Joseph and Nancy after 1786, but we find no trace of them in Charlotte county after that last deed, and there is no appearance of a return to Maine. In fact, we can't even say with certainty if they lived in Maine before coming under the protection of Fort George at Penobscot. There is also scanty evidence connecting their two proposed children to any families in Charlotte County after the 1784.

      Although there are no documents to support the claim, it has been said that Elijah D Greenlaw's wife was Sarah Smith. If it were so, then this Sarah Smith would be in the right place, of the right age, at the right time. Also, Elijah's brother Ann's maiden name is unknown, her age being consistent with the Nancy Smith from the 1784 return.

      This brings us to the Joseph Smith of the 1807 petition. At that time, he had 2 sons, 2 daughters and a wife. If it were Joseph m Nancy, his adult daughters would not likely be included in this count. These would be minor children. Could this Joseph be a son of Joseph m Nancy? If he were born shortly after the 1784 return, say 1785, he would be 22 years old by the time of the petition. Although he may be just too young to have that many children at that age, it is not totally outside the realm of possibility.

      One more Smith connection to this Greenlaw family is through sister of Elijah and Ebenezer named Joanna. In 1798, after she was married to Timothy Blake in 1797 and before their daughter Prudence was born in 1799, a child of "Johana Grenlow" was baptized at All Saint's Anglican in St Andrews. Although the sex of the child was not indicated, and the child's name was not given, the surname of the child was noted as "Smith." (We conclude that this was the Ann Smith who was born in the 1790s and married William Higgins in 1811.) Parties certainly knew the father of the child, but declined to record the information. By this time there were other Smith in the area (Ebenezer Smith came from Machias to St David between 1794 and 1797. David Smith and son David, who married into another branch of Greenlaws, were probably also from Machias, but may have remained there until after 1810 before come to St Andrews. Reuben Smith came from New Hampshire to St David around 1787.), but Joseph Smith m Nancy were the closest located family in the 1790s. Joseph had been granted Farm Lot 40. Other Greenlaws were granted Lots 44 and 45. Nearby Lot 25 was granted to the father of Elijah, Ebenezer and Joanna. Could Ann Smith's father be Joseph m Nancy?

      I don't expect any records to reveal themselves that could clear up any of these questions, or support any of these claims. DNA matching could point to common ancestry, but that too can be shaky so many generations back. So we are left to be happy knowing what we know, and supposing the rest.
    • Petition 1807: wife 2 sons 2 daughters
      Census 1851: Nil
      Caren Secord: no Sarah Smiths 1784 under 10. 1 over 10.
      ECW: Joseph Smith St Andrews
      Old Soldiers: Nil
      St Andrews Assessment 1822: Silas Smith [L], Stewart Smith [P], David Smith Jr [P], John Smith [P], Peter Smith [L]
      St David Assessment 1823: Jeremiah Smith, Moses Smith, Reuben Smith, Ebenezer Smith, James Smith, John Smith, S Smith
      St David Assessment 1831: David Smith, Ebenezer Smith, James Smith, Jeremiah Smith, John Smith (2), Joseph Smith, Moses Smith, Sidney Smith, Silas Smith, William Smith, Silas Smith Senior
      Early NB Probate: Nil
      Johnson's Vitals: Nil
      All Saints Anglican: Nil
      Washington County Census: Nil
      First Families: Nil
      Carver Penobscot: Penobscot Journal 1782: Nil. Certified Loyal: Joseph and Warren
      Artificers: Nil
      Charlotte County Marriages: Nil
      Charlotte County Probate: Nil
      Lincoln County grantors 1769-1800: Nil Joseph Smith
      Hancock County Registry Books: Nil
      Me Soldiers and Sailors Revolutionary: Capt Lemont's Co. On Lincoln Galley privateer. Capt [Thomas] Rumney's Co [York].
      Liberty Men: Nil
      Loyalist Claims: Nil
      Balltown 1777: Nil
      Winthrop 1777: Nil
      Warren 1777: Nil
      Pownalborough 1777: Nil
      Hallowell 1777: Nil
      Gardinerstown 1777: Nil
      Rev Bailey: Nil
      Sabine: Nil
      Halifax Deeds: Nil
      Digby Deeds: Nil
      NBGS Anglican: Checked
      Massachusetts Card Index: Nil
      Lincoln County Probate: Nil

      http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cannbfam/CH.pdf
      RETURN OF THE BACK LANDS OF THE PENOBSCOTT LOYALIST - 1784
      Cleadie Barnett
      Joseph Smith 1 woman 50 acres

      Doesn't appear to have returned to Maine.
    • St Andrews Assessment 1822:
      Peter Smith [L] [Capt Peter Smith Harbor Master i 1816 m Mary American i 1819

      [These three together:]
      David Smith [L]
      David Smith Jr [P] [[m Elizabeth Greenlaw d Ebenezer]
      John Smith [P] [not John Smith m Jane 1851 census b Ireland i 1832]

      Stewart Smith [P] [Nil petitions, Johnson's. To Calais b c 1800 Scotland d 1865 Calais]

      Silas Smith [L] [m Hannah Brown]

      * * *
      St Andrews 1831
      Town
      Peter Smith
      James Smith
      ...
      G N Smith
      ...
      Thos Smith
      ...
      Wm Smith

      Country
      David Smith
      ...

      * * *
      St Andrews Assessment 1841
      Town
      James Smith
      ...
      Peter Smith
      ...
      John Smith [P]
      ...
      Wm Smith NR
      ...
      Adam Smith
      ...
      Thomas Smith
      ...

      Country
      Commons
      Henry Smith
      Thomas Smith

      St Croix District
      David Smith
    • Lot 40 Penobscot

      Index to New Brunswick Land Grants, 1784 - 1997 (RS686)
      Name SMITH, Joseph
      Volume NS-A
      Page 176
      Grant number 96
      Place Passamaquoddy
      County Sunbury
      Date 1785-05-21
      Accompanying plan No
      Acres 100
      Microfilm F16302
      Comment Re-registered NS Grant of 1784/08/03: Penobscot Association
      Other names on this grant (188)

      Volume A Page 119 [122/485]
      No 13 [northern half lengthwise]
      Joseph Smith Town St Andrews
      Robert Pagan Town St Andrews
      25 pounds
      1/2 Farm Lot 40 Penobscot
      "one full half of Farm lot No 40 in the Penobscot Association being twenty five rods in front upon the water and bounded by the Farm lot No 39 the property of Lauchlan McCurdy"
      9 June 1786
      Joseph Smith
      Nancy Smith [Her mark]
      Wit: Willian Moon

      Volume B Page 57 [60/753]
      No 355 Mortgage
      Joseph Smith farmer St Andrews
      Colin Campbell merchant St Andrews
      $42
      Lot 40 on which I now live
      "one half of a lott of land being No 40 in the Penobscot Grant on which I now live containing one hundred acres in whole the other half fifty acres whereof is conveyed to Robt Pagan Esqr & Co"
      North 1/2
      4 September 1789
      Joseph Smith
      Wit: Archibald McLachlan, Niven McVicar

      Volume B Page 191
      [194/753]
      No 298
      Colin Campbell Esq St Andrews
      Silas Cummings blacksmith St Andrews
      25 pounds
      50 acres Lot 40 southern half
      bounded on the southeast by Laughlin McCurdy
      northwest by the other half
      "piece or parcel of land containing fifty acres more or less, situate lying and being upon Scodiac Bay in the Parish of Saint Andrews and County of Charlotte aforesaid, being the Southeastern moiety or equal half of Farm lot number forty in the Penobscot location, bounded on the South east by Laughlin McCurdy and on the Norrthwest by the other half of said lot conveyed to Robert Pagan Esquire the said lot number forty"
      1 August 1791
      Colin Campbell
      Susanna Campbell
      Wit: H B Brown

      Volume B Page 193
      [196/753]
      No 4991
      Silas Cummings blacksmith St Andrews
      Neal McCurdy shipwright St Andrews
      25 pounds
      50 acres
      southeastern moiety Farm Lot 40
      southeast by Laughlin McCurdy
      northwest by other half of Lot 40
      26 January 1792
      Silas Cummings
      Hannah Cummings
      Wit: Jno Curry, H B Brown

      Volume D Page 436
      [440/473]
      No 491
      Neal McCurdy yeoman St Andrews
      son William McCurdy
      "the whole of the present farm that I now occupy" Lot No 40
      9 June 1814
      Neal McCurdy
      Wit: Jas A McCurdy, George H McCurdy

      Volume E Page 237
      [241/511]
      No 238
      Neal McCurdy St Andrews
      George H McCurdy St Andrews
      50 pounds
      "all that farm lot known and distinguished by farm lot No forty one in the Penobscot Association lying on Schoodic Bay bounded on the south east by Neal McCurdy Lot No forty and upon the northwest by land now occupied by Thomas Greenlaw purchased by me of Robert Pagan except a piece or parcel of the aforesaid lot lying on the northwest line of said lot No forty one bounded on the west side of the road leading from St Andrews to Schoodiac being ten rods on said road containing the same width to the shore

      also another piece or parcel on the east side of the aforesaid road being twenty rods on said road and containing the same width so far as that a parallel line with said road shall contain twelce acres on the whole including that piece or parcel before mentioned on the west side of the aforesaid road"

      2 October 1812
      Neil McCurdy
      Wit: Levi Carruth, William McCurdy

      Volulme E Page 238
      [242/511]
      No 239
      Neal McCurdy St Andrews
      William McCurdy St Andrews
      145 pounds
      "a certain farm lot known and distinguished by farm lot No forty in the Penobscot Association lying on Schoodic River and bounded on the south by land the property of Laughlin McCurdy"
      11 May 1813
      Neal McCurdy
      Wit: Dond McDonald

      Volume H Page 357
      [365/547]
      No 284
      Neal McCurdy yeoman St Andrews
      John George Neal McCurdy St Andrews
      13 10 -
      "a certain piece of land being a part of the lot number forty one on the Schoodick bay ten rods wife on the west side of the road, leading from Saint Andrews to Schoodiac and to continue the same width to the shore
      and another piece or parcel on the est side of the aforesaid road being twenty rod in width and to continue the same width with a parallel line with the land now occupied by Thomas Greenlaw, so far as the whole may contain twelve acres."
      11 November 1816
      Neal McCurdy
      Wit: Thomas Greenlaw, Dond McLachlan

      Volume P Page 225
      [228/550]
      No 173
      Ruth McCurdy widow Whiting, Maine, reliict of Neal McCurdy late of St Andrews shipwright deceased
      William A McCurdy farmer St Andrews
      11 pounds
      "all that certain piece parcel or tract of land of which my son George H McCurdy late of Saint Andrews aforesaid died seized and possessed, situate, lying and being in the parish of Saint Andrews aforesaid, and which is bounded towards the North by lands in the possession of Alexander McCurdy
      towards the East by lands in the possession of Henry Johnson
      towards the South by lands conveyed by my son, the said George H McCurdy in his life tim, to his brother James McCurdy
      towards the West bby the waters of the River Saint Croix
      containing in the whole about Thirty Eight Acres
      9 April 1836
      Ruth McCurdy
      Wit: Isaac Crane, James McCurdy
    • Town Lot St Andrews

      Index to New Brunswick Land Grants, 1784 - 1997 (RS686)
      Name SMITH, Joseph
      Volume NS-A
      Page 165
      Grant number 95
      Place Saint Andrews
      County Sunbury
      Date 1785-05-21
      Accompanying plan No
      Acres 0
      Microfilm F16302
      Comment Re-registered NS Grant of 1784/06/01: Town Lot
      Other names on this grant (354)

      Volume A Page 250 [253/485]
      No 101
      3 December 1784
      Joseph Smith St Andrews
      William Pagan, Robert Pagan & Co merchants St Andrews
      8 guineas
      Town of St Andrews
      Lot 5 Block B Parr's Division
      granted to Joseph Smith
      Joseph Smith
      Wit: Benjm Milliken Jr, Miles Post
    • Petition 1807 for Pleasant Ridge

      https://archives.gnb.ca/Search/RS108/Details.aspx?culture=en-CA&Key=57354
      RS108 :: Index to Land Petitions: Original Series, 1783-1918
      Name JOHNSON, Nicholas
      Year 1807
      County Charlotte
      Microfilm F4171
      See petition of JOHNSON, NICHOLAS
      BERRY, JAMES
      CARLON, JACOB
      CARLON, MARTIN
      CARPENTER, ANTHONY W.
      COOKSON, WILLIAM
      FOULERTON, ALEXANDER
      GILCHRIST, GORDON
      GOODELL, EBEN
      GRANT, DANIEL
      GREENLAW, ALEXANDER
      GREENLAW, EBENZER
      GREENLAW, JONATHAN
      GREENLAW, SOLOMON
      GREENLAW, THOMAS
      HARVEY, WILLIAM
      HITCHINGS, AMOS
      HITCHINGS, GEORGE
      HITCHINGS, JAMES
      HITCHINGS, WILLIAM
      JOHNSON, BENJAMIN
      JOHNSON, NICHOLAS
      JOICE, JOHN
      MACCULLOCH, DONALD
      MANSFIELD, J.
      MCCURDY, ALEXANDER
      MCCURDY, JAMES
      MCCURDY, LACHLAN
      MCCURDY, NEAL
      MCGEAR, WILLIAM
      RIDEOUT, BENJAMIN
      RYAN, JOHN
      SMITH, JOSEPH
      STINSON, CHARLES
      STINSON, DAVID
      STINSON, JOSEPH
      THOMSON, DOUGALD
      TRADWELL, REUBEN
      TURNER, EPHRAIM

      https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/78954?availability=Family%20History%20Library
      Land petitions, 1783-1857
      Authors: New Brunswick. Crown Land Office
      1806 Arnold, Oliver - 1808 Connors, Nathaniel
      Family History Library
      United States & Canada Film
      1288467
      8191404
      https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/008191404?cat=78954
      [623/846]

      To His Honour Gabriel D Ludlow, Esquire President of the Province of New Brunswick &c &c

      The Memorial of Nichs Johnson and other Inhabitants of the parish of St. Andrews, and its vicinity, in the County of Charlotte. ---

      Humbly Seweth

      That your Memorialist in general are of the number of those Loyalist, who emigrated into this country at the peace with America in 1783, or their sons now of age, and were mostly comprised among those Loyalist denominated the Penobscot Association, who settled in and about Passamaquoddy bay, and were promised One hundred acres of lands for themselves, and Fifty for their wives, and for each child. ---

      That from various intervening impediments your Memorialist never received their full allotments of land which Government had at first given them good reason to expect would not have been delayed.

      That during this long lapse of time your Memorialist have laboured under great difficulties to maintain themselves, and bring up large families of children, who, by the divine blessing have increased to a pleasing degree, as Your Honor will perceive by the annexed list of them. ---

      That your Memorialist, stimulated by parental affection to provide for their offspring have anxiously sought for unoccupied lands whereon to form a settlement for themselves and families so that by their united endeavours they may be enabled to surmount their present hardships ---

      That your Memorialist are informed of a Tract of Land lying between this county and the Oromocto river commonly called Pleasant Ridge, being in a wilderness ungranted, which if secured to your Memorialist by a Grant, might answer all their claims as to quality, and they believe is a good quality, and calculated for a large settlement. ---

      Your Memorialist therefore humbly pray Your Honor will be pleased to Grant them such a portion of the above Tract of Land as may be sufficient for their accommodation and also reserve and lay out such portions of the same, as Your Honor may deem expedient for public purposes, as they with satisfaction look forward to a large and flourishing settlement there if their Memorial is compiled with, and Your Memorialist as in duty bound will ever pray ---

      St. Andrews 21st August 1807

      The following is a list of the families of the Subscribers attested to in the Memorial hereto subjoined ...

      Nichs Johnson wife 5 sons 1 daughter
      Neal McCurdy wife 2 sons 4 daughters
      James McCurdy
      Somo Greenlaw wife
      Laughlan McCurdy wife 2 sons 4 daughters
      John Ryan & his mother
      Willm Cookson wife 2 sons 1 daughter
      Anthy W Carpenter wife 5 sons 4 daughters
      Thos Greenlaw wife 3 sons 1 daughter
      Martin Carlow wife 2 sons 3 daughters
      Jacob Carlow
      Joseph Stinson wife 4 sons 2 daughters
      Alex. McCurdy wife 2 daughters
      Donald McCullich wife 4 sons 2 daughters
      Alex Fullerton
      Ephrm Turner
      Eben Goodel wife 4 sons 1 daughter
      Danl Grant wife 5 sons 4 daughters
      Jona Greenlaw Senr wife 1 son 5 daughters
      Josh Smith wife 2 sons 2 daughter
      Reuben Tredwel wife
      John Joice wife 6 sons 1 daughter
      Bena Rideout
      Javin Manser wife 4 sons 4 daughters
      Amos Hichens wife 3 sons 3 daughters
      James Hichens
      Geoe Hichens wife 1 son
      Willm Hichens
      Gordon Gilchrist wife 1 son 2 daughters
      Benja Johnson wife 1 son 3 daughters
      Willm Harvey wife 2 sons 4 daughter
      Chas Stinson wife 3 daughters
      Willm McGear wife 1 son 4 daughters
      James Berry wife 5 sons 3 daughters
      Dougal Thompson wife 5 sons 4 daughters
      Alex Greenlaw Senr wife 2 sons 6 daughters
      Alex Greenlaw Jr
      Ebenr Greenlaw wife 3 sons 3 daughters
      Total: 33 Men 27 women 61 boys 67 girls

      We certify that we are acquainted with the foregoing Memorialist in general --- That they are Loyal Subjects, and useful Settlers --- And we most Respectfully beg leave to Request that the prayer of their Memorial may be compiled with.

      Hugh MacKay, JP
      Robt Pagan
      Thos Wyer
      Danl Mc[Inaiter]
      Don McLachland

      13th Jul 1808 The Lands are Vacant in the Situation applied for in this Memorial and have been frequently reported to me to be of a very good quality - A settlement in that situation will completely open the inland communication between Fredericton and Charlotte County ---

      Geo Sproule S Genl
    • Joseph Smith r Bath

      Joseph Smith
      in the 1790 United States Federal Census
      Name: Joseph Smith
      [Josiah Smith ]
      Home in 1790 (City, County, State): Bath , Lincoln, Maine
      Free White Persons - Males - Under 16: 1
      Free White Persons - Males - 16 and over: 2
      Free White Persons - Females: 3
      Number of Household Members: 6
      Year: 1790; Census Place: Bath, Lincoln, Maine; Series: M637; Roll: 2; Page: 262; Image: 152; Family History Library Film: 0568142

      Other Censuses: Nil Bath

      https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/352440?availability=Family%20History%20Library
      Land records, 1761-1912; indexes to land records, 1761-1901
      Authors: Lincoln County (Maine). Register of Deeds
      Land records v. 32-33 1794-1795
      Family History Library
      United States & Canada Film
      11374
      7834676
      https://www.familysearch.org/search/film/007834676?cat=352440
      [242/547]
      Volume 32 Page 223
      Tobias Ham yeoman Brunswick & Joseph Smith yeoman Bath
      Benjamin Ham gentleman Bath
      10 pounds
      land in Bath now in the possession of Benjamin Ham described
      14 February 1794
      Tobias Ham
      Joseph Smith
      Wit: Nathl Larrabee, Robt Thompson